Misguided Counseling Groups Mandating The Jab and 2 Simple Things You Can Do About It

Kathleen Mills of PracticeMentors.us

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One of the more disturbing trends I’m seeing in this roller-coaster of pandemic nonsense is the mandating of medical procedures, by employers, as a precursor to employment or continued employment, specifically, counseling groups mandating the jab. We are seeing a push to force employers to mandate their remote work forces to get these EUA (Experimental Use Authorization) gene revision therapy injections before they return to onsite properties. Colleges, corporations, hospitals, airlines and some small business owners have seemingly jumped on the band wagon of this injection mandate.

Counseling Groups Mandating The Jab: “Proof of Vaccination”

The rush to mandate has even crept into the counseling world and that really upsets me. My counseling practice/small business will never, ever require a mandatory, experimental treatment of any kind prior to or during employment. Nor will we require the same from our clients before they can see a counselor in our offices.

Problems/Issues with “Proof of Vaccination” Requirements

As I see it, the main problem(s) with counseling groups requiring proof of vaccination (or any medical treatment) are the following:

  • It violates international law.

The Nuremberg Code 1947 was created as a direct result of WWII atrocities. This is international code that was designed to prevent specific crimes against humanity, including mandatory experimental injections, from ever happening again.

  • It violates our own Federal Code.

We have Federal law on the books that prohibits the mandating of emergency use experimental drugs. The Department of Justice (Executive Branch) has no jurisdiction to override those statutes, btw.

  • It’s a flagrant HIPAA violation.

None of their damn business whether I got the shot or not. Employers may try to defend themselves by saying that employees obtained the shot voluntarily. Sure, they did; "voluntarily" under the implied or stated threat of losing their job!

We’re Front-Line Responders, FCOL!

I’m talking directly, now, to those counselors running a practice that are mandating the jab as a precursor to employment or seeing a counselor.

If obeying existing law isn’t enough for you, I contend that we can’t morally or ethically require people to have undergone a treatment before we’ll see them. Nor can we require the same of potential new hires for our own counseling staffs. That’s like a paramedic telling his boss he’ll only respond to calls with no blood at the scene because he’s afraid of catching something.

There’s a line between common sense and mandating medical treatment. If a client or staff member has a cold or the flu, sure, I want him to stay home. But demanding they get the jab before returning to work or before you’ll hire an applicant, or before you’ll see that client is crossing the line. We don’t get to mandate other people’s medical treatment. That's not what "front-line" does. Period.

People are suffering greatly because of what’s happening and the service we provide as mental health counselors is no less important than the medical researchers trying to figure this all out, paramedics that bravely respond to all calls, the nurses that risk their lives every day, or the front-line doctors dealing with this “crisis”. Either you’re a front-line responder or you’re not. Get in or get out.

Someone Mandating Your Next Medical Move?

If you’re an associate or fully licensed counselor and the next stop on your career path, or your current employer, is mandating certain medical procedures from you as a pre-condition of your employment there are several things you can do.

  • Go work somewhere else.

Why would you ever want to work for someone who thinks they have the authority to tell you what to do with your body? I’d have to ask myself, "if they’ll do that without batting an eye, how far will they go?" I’d tell my own kids to look elsewhere.

  • Try and educate them to effect the change you want.

If looking elsewhere for a counseling home is not an option, then you have two choices:

a. You must decide whether subjecting yourself to the mandated treatment carries too much risk to your health or not. Do your research then if you determine the risk is acceptable, comply. Just be prepared to live with any unintended consequences as there are no 2, 3, 5, or 10 year studies on any of these experimental drugs.

b. Try and educate your employer in order to effect the policy changes that you want.

If the policymaker is open to discussion, then show them this post first. Attorney Miri Anne Finch has compiled a library of letter templates that you can use for various objectives so go there next. If that doesn’t yield the desired effect, see the first bullet-point above.


We’re front-line responders and we have a moral duty and legal obligation to be there for our clients and our staff, with no medical mandates attached. We don’t have the legal right to mandate someone else’s medical treatments and it is highly unethical to do so. Take your common-sense precautions, as we have done from Day 1 of this sad piece of our history, do your own research, and let’s move on.

And now you know.

Plan Smart. Be Safe. Serve Others.

Kathleen Mills, LPC-S, CEAP

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About Kathleen Mills

Kathleen Mills is a fire-breathing, 30+ year veteran of the counseling world. A tireless warrior for the profession, her goal with PracticeMentors.us is to bullet-proof the counseling profession so that what happened to her doesn't happen to you!


  1. Lynn Busch on August 12, 2021 at 8:23 pm

    Perhaps “1984” by George Orwell should be required reading by members of our profession.

  2. Kim Bowen on August 12, 2021 at 6:46 pm

    I don’t think you are “irresponsible” or “unethical”. I think you have a different opinion from others who use that language out of fear or to intimidate you to get in line. Half the country feels this is getting out of hand based on data, statistics, and health experts we have resourced.

    There are plenty of us who do actually agree with you. I am the CEO of a large practice and I will not mandate vaccines for staff or clients. Ever. This country/media has lost its mind and we are free-falling into a socialist society. I don’t want to participate in the downward spiral. I think your post is a breath of fresh air for those of us who believe Covid is real but has been politicized for a greater agenda. We MUST mask up and stay home unless of course, you were invited to Obama’s birthday party. Come on, people. Wake up.

  3. Melany on August 10, 2021 at 10:31 pm

    I’m confused. Why is Phillip Crum commenting as if he wrote the article by Kathleen Mills? Personally, I don’t understand why this article was written. It’s obviously very political and damaging. Covid is running rampant in some areas like Texas where the hospitals are overwhelmed now. It’s irresponsible and upsetting that this callousness exists when people are struggling to breathe. Wow.

    • Phillip Crum on August 11, 2021 at 10:05 am

      Phillip only telegraphs my comments in the feed. All comments are from me, directly.

      I do not feel by me addressing another side of the COVID issue that I am being irresponsible as you seem to suggest. We are only irresponsible if we cannot talk/think about both sides. In therapy, this is what we do in our client sessions, in order for the client to decide what the best response/options are for that client and his/her situation. This topic is no different.

      We do not have an increase at hospitals It has all been manageable. They are still taking patients. There are no gurneys in the hallways nor are ER rooms over flowing. If you look at hospital parking lots and their capacities, it suggests there is still room for proper care. Hope this helps answer your question.

      Good luck to you and stay well.

  4. Dorsey Cartwright on August 5, 2021 at 8:23 am

    Reading your article, Kathleen, reminded me of a recent interview I read with a nurse who worked with Covid patients. She said she did not like being referred to as a hero. That when she had signed up for the military she had signed up to give her life for her country. When she signed up to be a nurse, she had not signed up to give her life for her patients. (and over 3, 000 healthcare workers did, many due to lack of adequate protection gear.) She is currently wrestling with her feelings about the number of new covid patients who had chosen not to get vaccinated and were beginning to overwhelm her hospital.

    I think therapists have a responsibility to themselves, their clients, and their families to take whatever steps they deem necessary to protect their health and the health of others. Those who decide not to get vaccinated are not the only people in this country who have rights and personal choice, including choosing not to risk exposing their bodies to taking in someone else’s disease..

    We do know that taking in someone else’s virus droplets into your body has a high probability of causing long term effects, and for many leads to death.

    • Phillip Crum on August 5, 2021 at 10:35 am

      Thanks for your input, Dorsey.

      You mentioned a nurse “wrestling with her feelings” about unvaccinated Covid patients. Using the logic of the day, which is very little logic at all it seems, all she has to do is wear a mask and she’ll be okay (no, I don’t believe that but it’s what we’re being told!). I agree with you completely regarding a therapist’s responsibility to take whatever steps they deem necessary (glad to see you haven’t stripped counselors of their right to determine that for themselves!) to protect themselves and, to the best of their ability according to their research and conscience, their clients. I will add that the primary responsibility for protecting clients belongs to the clients themselves. If they’re past the mask then that’s their decision. If they want to wear a has-mat suit, that’s fine.

      I think you’ll find that a very high percentage of the unvaccinated have elected not to because they’ve done some good research and determined that based on the ingredients in the “vaccine”, the lack of long-term testing, and the current, unsettling political environment that they don’t want to be part of an experimental control group. And that’s a very valid position to take. Yes, all sides of this argument have rights which should not be trampled or eliminated, I agree.

      Like you, I’ve never wanted to be around sick people, that’s why we tell them to stay home when they’re ill, right? As you said earlier, everyone takes the precautions for themselves that THEY deem appropriate. I’m adding that we need to quit worrying about what the other guy has decided to do, take our precautions, and get on with living our lives.

      Thanks, again, for the feedback!

  5. Christine Sumpter on August 3, 2021 at 3:20 pm

    THANK YOU for this post! It is much needed! Thank you for speaking out about this EXPERIMENTAL “vaccine”.

  6. Ami on August 3, 2021 at 1:18 pm

    Yes Kathleen!!!

  7. Chris-James Cognetta on August 3, 2021 at 9:50 am

    When you use words like “gene revision therapy injections” you imply that the vaccine is in fact revising one’s genetic make-up, which is a gross error in information. You refer to the pandemic as nonsense— and minimize the pandemic that so many have suffered from. You also need to educate yourself on HIPPA and what it is and isn’t. Proof of vaccination is required for schools and for entry into other countries when traveling. There are no exemptions for Visa’s to countries that require certain inoculations like yellow fever etc.

    We are on the frontline and the best defense is a vaccine to protect ourselves and for our clients. It is wholly irresponsible to propagate misinformation as you have in this article. While it is your opinion it is not based in fact. It is ill informed and as a person with a platform to reach a significant audience you have not only tarnished your brand you have in fact potentially damaged many in propagating misinformation.

    • Phillip Crum on August 3, 2021 at 10:56 am

      Thanks for your input.

      First, the “vaccine” is not a vaccine, it is an experimental drug not yet approved by the FDA and contains no covid biology. It’s not a virus at all. In fact it has not been isolated in a lab because it’s a chemical cocktail, not a virus.

      Second, according to my research it does indeed alter one’s genetic functionality. I’d love to see your proof that it does not.

      My use of the word, “nonsense”, is directly related to the misinformation we receive from the CDC/MSM and the bloated numbers that are being revised as we speak. The CDC’s recall, last week, of the primary Covid/PCR test is further evidence that the numbers are very, very wrong. We’re being hood-winked.

      “The pandemic that so many have suffered from”? I know that if you’ll check numbers from other high-profile diseases (I have) you’ll realize that the numbers attributed to Covid pale in comparison to other diseases like Cancer, heart disease, Chicken Pox, Hepatitis B.

      The historical numbers for Covid are being revised downward, daily. Why? As mentioned above, the primary test used for the past 18+ months has been clinically proven to be wrong >96% of the time.

      Very well versed on HIPAA, thank you very much. And again, this is not a vaccination, it’s an experimental drug and that’s not hair-splitting. It matters!

      Glad to hear that you view us as “front-line” caregivers but a “solution” that does more harm than good is not our best defense against anything. One has only to check out the VAERS website numbers to know that the reaction to “the jab” is far worse than the flu-like reaction being caused by Covid (we’re up to 53,000 deaths from “the jab” so far; not Covid,…the jab!). Yes, people have died but they die every year from the flu in very similar numbers which begs the question, what are these people really dying from? BTW, what happened to “the flu” last year? Where’d it go??

      • Lynn Busch on August 5, 2021 at 12:05 am

        Thank you for your response. Perhaps we have forgotten “First do no harm.” Or, did we ever know it in the first place.

      • Phillip Crum on August 5, 2021 at 10:04 am

        Probably a combination of several things: some of our profession having lost sight of that foundational precept, and the actual definition of the term changing based on the current political agenda. Sounds like a blog post to me. Maybe.

  8. Nancy Bean on August 3, 2021 at 9:12 am

    It is irresponsible for a healthcare provider to post this article.

    • Phillip Crum on August 3, 2021 at 9:21 am

      You didn’t explain “why” you think it’s irresponsible to discuss ethics amongst our colleagues. Please explain.

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